Much has happened in the Welsh political World since I last blogged- the most important development centering on Adam Price's statements with regards the need to re-ignite the Plaid-Labour/ Red- Green agenda.
I understand that Adam supports both options- a deal, or should I say 'formal coalition' with Labour, or the alternative three party agreement. The reality of the situation is that the Labour party is in Government. In proposing a Plaid-Labour deal, Adam is responding to the situation as it is, and is astute in realising the possibilities and potential of a Plaid - Labour agreement.
It would be foolish for us now to dismiss working with Labour as we would only appear to be opposing for opposing's sake. We cannot push for the three party agreement heads down, with no thought for the current political landscape.
I voted not to suspend talks with Labour as we had not received a closing statement on any said agreement. I believe that this decision is key to understanding where we are now. Labour, at least in appearance, is open to continuing talks with Plaid. Edwina Hart has more than hinted at her willingness to work with us, to discuss how we can move politics forward in Wales. I sense that Labour realise that their hegemony in Wales has ended, and that they must face the fact that they cannot succeed alone. From reading Rhodri Morgan's letter to Ieuan Wyn Jones, it is clear that our party can benefit by at least considering co-operating with Labour- developing a joint group to discuss a referendum on a Parliament for Wales, and the intention to introduce a moratorium on existing changes in the health service at community level being two of the main issues.
It is important now for Plaid to pursue a bilateral approach, so that members and elected representatives alike are provided with two options when a vote will inevitably take place at the National Executive and at our National Council. Members deserve to be presented with the facts in an honest and clear manner. Voting on one option would be unfair, and would not reflect the diversity of that which is on offer to them, and to the people of Wales.
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Sialens i Lafur yng Nghymru
Mae llawer wedi digwydd ym myd gwleidyddol Cymru ers i mi flogi ddiwethaf - y mwya' pwysig i wneud a mynegiadau Adam Price parthed yr angen i ail-danio'r agenda Plaid-Llafur.Rwy'n deall fod Adam yn cefnogi'r ddau ddewis - clymblaid gyda Llafur neu ymuno'r Enfys.
Y gwirionedd yw mai Llafur sydd wedi ffurfio Llywodraeth, ac wrth gynnig clymblaid wyrddgoch, mae Adam yn ymateb i'r sefyllfa fel ag y mae, a'n graff yn sylwi ar botensial y fath gytundeb.
Byddai'n hurt i ni ddiystyru cydweithio gyda Llafur ar hyn o bryd, ac ymddangos ein bod yn wrthblaid sydd yn gallu gwneud dim ond gwrthwynebu. Nid yw'n ddoeth gwthio am glymblaid Enfys heb ystyried y maes gwleidyddol gyfredol.
Pleidleisiais ym Mai i beidio a gohirio trafodaeth gyda Llafur gan nad oedden wedi derbyn unhyw ddatganiad terfynol ar unrhyw gytundeb. Rwyf yn coelio fod fy mhenderfyniad yn allweddol i ddealltwriaeth o'r sefyllfa bresenol.Mae Llafur yn ymddangos yn agored i barhau trafodaeth gyda Plaid. Mae Edwina Hart wedi cyfeirio at ei pharodwydd i gydweithio gyda ni, ac i drafod y ffordd ymlaen yng Nghymru.Mae Llafur wedi sylwi fod ei hegemoni yng Nghymru drosodd, a'n gorfod gwynebu'r angen am bartneriaeth er mwyn llwyddo. O ddarllen llythyr Rhodri Morgan i Ieuan Wyn Jones, mae yn glir y bydd Plaid yn buddio o gydweithio gyda Llafur - gyda datblygiad gweithgor ar drafodaeth refferendwm ar Senedd a bwriad i gyflwyno moratoriwm ar newidiadau i'r gwasanaeth iechyd yn y gymuned yn ddau brif bwnc.
Mae'n bwysig fod Plaid yn dilyn llwybr ddwyochrog fel bod aelodau a chynrychiolwyr etholedig yn cael dwy ddewis pan mae pleidlais yn ein Bwrdd Gwaith Cenedlaethol ac yn ein Cyngor Cenedlaethol. Mae aelodau yn haeddu derbyn yr hollw wybodaeth - byddai pleidlais ar un dewis yn annheg, a'n methu adlewyrchu'r dewis sydd ar gael i Gymru.
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Lle ti di bod felly Bethan? Neis gweld chdi'n blogio eto! Cytuno yn llwyr a dy farn am bleidlais - ni fyddai'r deg cael un dewis yn unig. Ond, mae rhaid i Llafur ddechrau cynnig cytundebau go iawn a nid dim ond ystumiau cyfeilgar.
Nid yw'r Enfys yn ddelweddol - ond mae'r ddogfen yn amlinellu'r Enfys yn un da. Mae'r pwysau ar Llafur - ni allwn gynnig dewis i'n aelodau rhwng clymblaid wedi ei selio ar ddogfen trwyadl a chlymblaid wedi ei selio ar dafod Edwina Hart.
Gwyrddgoch fyddai'r dewis gorau, ond rhaid i'r coch ddechrau dangos eu lliwiau!
rwy wedi bod yn brysur, Cymro!
wel, rhaid i mi ddweud bod angen i ni ail ddechre trafod da Llafur, a phryd hynny yn unig byddem yn ymwybodol o beth yn gwmws mae gan y Blaid Lafur i gynnig. Dyna'r oll ddweda i.
Brysur yn gwneud beth? Paid a dweud mae dyma'r oll ddwedi di - mae lot i'w drafod! Y peth ydi, mae angen bod mor agored a sy'n bosib i Llafur. Ond nhw fydd angen gwneud y symudiad cyntaf - wyt ti ddim yn meddwl y bydd Plaid yn edrych yn wan wrth ofyn i Rhodri am gynnig? Mae gwyrddgoch yn well nac enfys mewn egwyddor, ond rhaid i Llafur ddod allan efo cynnig. Wyt ti yn cytuno?
Bethan,
This is not just a challenge for Labour but Plaid too. Many of us on the left of Welsh Labour have promoted the view that only an alliance with progressives in Plaid can ultimately deliver the level of self determination and ideological concensus necessary to make Wales an exemplar social democracy.
This will take trust on both sides. It is not just down to Labour, people other than Adam need to step up to the plate and give confidence that on Plaid's part this is a serious initiative. There are many in Welsh Labour who will respond positively and do their level best to get the outcome the left in both parties want to see.
We owe it to the ordinary people of Wales who banking on us to keep the Tories out and provide the progressive centre left government who will act in their interests. Lets together deliver the colours of Wales - red/green!
Well very interesting in deed. Yes I agree that any option that is put forward to any group should have a second one to consider, as this would give opertunity for them to decide between the 2.
But I still agree that The offer Rhodri gave was a start and could be worked on as time goes by. Dont burn bridges untill the last possible moment.
Activist, I have to disagree with you there. This is a challenge for Labour alone - Plaid have already demonstrated our socialist ideals many times. We don't need to prove any trust - Labour already know that we will back moves toward social justice in Wales.
It is Labour who need to prove their real willingness tow work with us "Nats" - by making a real coalition offer that is backed by the Labour AMs, not just Rhodri's hopes. I agree that a red-green coalition has potential to deliver a social democratic Wales, but Labour are the ones who need to lay down their animosity and mistrust of Plaid.
cymro- yes it is up to Rhodri et al to talk with Plaid but we must be equally as receptive. I think that we will be over the next few days. It all depends on what's on offer, whether Labour and our Party agree to it.
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