Saturday, 2 June 2007

Carwyn Jones- a 'consensus' politics advocate or not?


Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to listen to Carwyn Jones on Taro’r Post regarding his opinions on a New Welsh Language Act (the sound on my computer is not working!) but from what I understand he is opposing a New Welsh Language Act, and his opposition therefore to implementing such an Act as a Minister whose brief includes the Welsh Language and its development.

This news is somewhat confusing, especially if you take the Labour Party’s recent soundings at face value- the need to create consensus politics in Wales which will develop the Assembly for the future. I don’t understand his tactic (if he has a tactic) of making soundings against a New Welsh Language Act so soon. Considering that the Labour Government is a minority Government, one would have thought that it would be in Carwyn’s best interest to keep quiet for now. Speaking against one of Plaid’s main policies is hardly a good start to a positive working relationship!

What is more confusing is that Carwyn Jones (according to the media and political analysis of him) is on the Nationalist wing of the Labour Party. In my humble opinion, it really doesn’t help Carwyn Jones to be pushing for a vote of no confidence in the Government, as it is almost inevitable that the Unionists in his own party will mobilise against him while in opposition for the race to be leader of the Labour Party in Wales. This can’t be an ideal scenario for Carwyn and the like.

In simple terms, it would seem to be imperative for Carwyn Jones to seek to appeal to Plaid Cymru so as to establish himself and his agenda. His opinions against a New Welsh Language Act totally undermine this strategy. Martin Shipton and Vaughan Roderick have noted that Rhodri Morgan’s thinking behind placing Carwyn and Edwina Hart in key positions within the Cabinet was to make it hard for Plaid Cymru to undermine the Government with such ‘Plaid friendly’ faces at the front line.

So what is the importance of this to Welsh politics? If Carwyn Jones and his colleagues continue in this way, consensus politics in Wales between the Labour Party and Plaid will be very hard to implement in the short term, and certainly in the long term. As you know, I did hope that we could come to an agreement with Labour, and that is why I voted not to suspend discussions with them last week.

It’s vital, therefore, that we assess the actions of the Labour Party in the next few weeks to get a clear, holistic idea of the situation. If the Labour party do not play ball, its anyone’s guess as to what will happen next.

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Carwyn Jones- O blaid gwleidyddiaeth 'consenws' ai peidio?

Yn anffodus, dwi ddim wedi clywed y cyfweliad gyda Carwyn Jones ar Taro'r Post am Ddeddf Iaith Newydd (nid yw'r sain ar fy nghyfrifiadur yn gweithio), ond o'r hyn rwy'n deall, mae Carwyn Jones wedi datgan ei fod yn erbyn y cysyniad o Ddeddf Iaith Newydd, ac felly ei fod yn erbyn gweithredu y fath Ddeddf yn y Cynulliad tra bod ef yn Weinidog sydd a phrif gyfrifoldeb dros yr iaith.

Mae'r newydd yma yn benbleth i mi, yn enwedig o ystyried datganiadau diwedddara'r Blaid Lafur am yr angen i hybu gwleidyddiaeth consensws yng Nghymru er mwyn datblygu'r Cynulliad yn y dyfodol. Dydw i ddim yn deall ei dacteg ( os oes ganddo dacteg o gwbl) dros wneud datganiadau mor bendant yn erbyn Deddf Iaith Newydd. O feddwl bod y Llywodraeth Llafur yn un lleiafrifol mi fasa un yn tybio bod Carwyn Jones am gadw'n dawel am gyfnod o leiaf! Tasen i yn 'sgidiau Carwyn Jones, baswn i'n ceisio darganfod ffordd o gymodi polisi'r Blaid Lafur ar yr Iaith gyda polisi Plaid Cymru, ac hynny er mwyn hwyluso'r broses o lywodraethu. Nid siarad yn erbyn un o brif polisiau Plaid Cymru yw'r ffordd gorau o ddatblygu perthynas gref, mae hynny'n sicr!

Beth sydd yn fwy o benblethdod yw bod Carwyn Jones, (yn ol y delwedd sydd ohono yn y wasg ac yn y byd gwleidyddol) yn un sydd ar adain fwy Cenedlaetholgar y Blaid Lafur. Yn fy marn pitw i, nid yw'n helpu Carwyn Jones i wthio'r agenda gwleidyddol tuag at bleidlais diffyg hyder a'r clymblaid enfys oherwydd mae e bron yn anochel y bydd adain Undebol ei blaid ei hun yn gweithredu ras arweinyddol yn ei erbyn os ydynt yn cael ei gwthio i fod yn wrthblaid yn y Cynulliad. Nid yw hynny'n sefyllfa bleserus iawn i Carwyn a'i debyg.

Yn syml felly, mae'n bwysig bod Carwyn Jones yn apelio i Blaid Cymru er mwyn sefydlogi ei huno fewn ei swydd. Mae ei symudiadau diweddaraf yn erbyn Deddf Iaith yn gwrthdaro gyda'r strategaeth hwn yn llwyr. Mae hyd yn oed gohebwyr fel Martin Shipton a Vaughan Roderick wedi nodi mai un o brif penderfyniadau Rhodri Morgan dros benodi Carwyn ac Edwina Hart i'w safleoedd presenol o fewn y Cabinet oedd i greu sefyllfa anodd i Blaid Cymru o ran disodli'r Llywodraeth, gyda'r Gweinidogion ' Plaid friendly' ar flaen y gad.

Felly beth yw pwysigrwydd hwn i ddyfodol gwleidyddiaeth Cymru? Yn fy marn i, os ydyw agwedd Carwyn Jones a'i cyd weithwyr yn parhau, fe fydd gwleidyddiaeth consensws rhwng Llafur a Phlaid Cymru yn anodd iawn i'w weithredu yn tymor byr, ac yn sicr yn yr hir dymor. Roedd gen i obeithion am yr allu i gydweithredu a Llafur fel yr ydych yn gwybod, a dyna i chi'r rheswm am i mi bleidleisio yn erbyn dod a thrafodaethau gyda'r Blaid hynny i ben wythnos yn ol.

Mae'n hanfodol, felly i asesu sut y bydd Llafur yn gweithredu yn yr wythnosau nesaf i gael darlun clir ac holistaidd o'r sefyllfa. Os nad yw'r Blaid Lafur am weithio gyda Plaid Cymru, pwy a wyr beth fydd yn digwydd nesaf.

12 comments:

Unknown said...

Why bother to look at what other AMs are doing?

You are causing more than enough ripples by snubbing our monarchy and in so doing upsetting your consistuents. We are now wondering what on earth we have let ourselves in for. Another Peter Black? Lots of attitude and to heck with politics?

bethan said...

Peter Black is not a Republican, I don't think. I'm not sure what your saying about attitude. My republicanism is part of my politics. I think that I should be allowed to express that. Just because it isn't the flag waving status quo doesn't mean that there isn't a wealth of opposition to the Monarchy.

Carwyn Edwards said...

Mae'n rhaid i mi ysgrifennu i dangos cefnogaeth i ti a Leanne. Beth sydd siomedig ydi fod does ddim mwy o aelodau o'r Blaid yn ymuno efo chi!

"snubbing our monarchy'

Maybe it's your Monarchy but it's certainly not mine!!

Hwyl
Carwyn
www.welshleagueofarizona.org

Deleted said...

As one of your constituents, I'd like to say well done.

Even if I was a monarchist, I respect someone who stands by their convictions.

Why should we all follow like sheep?

bethan said...

thanks for the support carwyn and left field. I will be posting on this later on....

Unknown said...

I am a Plaid voter and have been for years. My view seems to be in the majority among those who put a cross next to plaid. There have always been the purists on the left but their numbers could never get the party seats.

If you have been members of Plaid for many years you would know this is very true. It's support base covers a wide spectrum and this is recognised by the party. This would form the basis of any coalition government in Cardiff. I have waited a long time to see such success in Plaid (50 years) and I do not want to find the narrow mindedness of the left that kept it in the dark for so long to destroy a chance to make great strides into a better future for Wales.

bethan said...

I am not narrow minded. I am merely expressing an opinion, I am sorry to say. I recognise that Plaid covers a wide spectrum of support. I appreciate that, and I respect others with different views within my party. Why is it so hard for you to respect mine?

Cymro said...

I respect and support your opinion, Bethan. But I urge you to take care over the next days - you are not just expressing a personal opinion, but are ascribing that to the people of South Wales West.

No, monarchy is not justified democratically, socially or morally. But take care - you have a promising career ahead, promoting the socialist ideals of Plaid - so choose your battles and remember that you hold a public office, not just a personal view.

Cymro said...

Da iawn ti, Bethan, am sefyll dros dy egwyddorion. Ond ble wyt ti yn gobeithio y bydd y safiad yn arwain. Roedd y safiad yn erbyn yr enfys yn gobeithio arwain atfarwolaeth enfys - ond roedd hyn yn bosib i'w gyflawni.

Ni fydd y brenhines yn penderfynnu fod brenhiniaeth yn beth drwg gan nad wyt ti yno - yn anffodus! Dwi yn poeni y bydd hyn yn creu anhawster yn y dyfodol gan na fydd pobl yn gweld dim ond 'yr hogan sydd yn protestio o hyd', pan ti yn ymgurchu dros amcanion sosialaidd y Blaid.

Felly llongyfarchiadau, dwi yn cytuno a dy egwyddorion. Ond bydd yn ofalus am ddewis dy frwydrau.

bethan said...

Cymro, I have always been a Republican. It would be equally hypocritical of me to attend this opening as it would have been for me to support a Rainbow coalition outright. I'm not doing it to 'protest' but am merely organising another event to attend on the day, which will have much more resonance on what I hope to acheive in the area over the next few years.
People may disagree with me, as I have said, but I stand by my decision not to go on Tuesday to the opening. Its the work that I do over the 4 years that counts, not whether I wear a pretty dress and smile for the Queen.

Unknown said...

Bethan, you are beginning to sound like a professional opposition, like Peter Black. The people of Swansea are tired of it, we expected a caliber such as we have Dai Lloyd when we voted for you.

This is the Welsh Assembly, not student politics.

bethan said...

You don't have to patronize me Sulf. I stand by my actions. If others wish to disagree then that is fine. You say student politics as if it is lowly and immature. It is not. I understand the importance of my position, that is why I believe in right to stand by my principles. I didn't come in to politics to smile and nod, sorry.